Legislature(2007 - 2008)

03/05/2008 08:11 AM House L&C


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HB 350-VEHICLE RENTAL TAX COLLECTION                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:39:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  announced that the  final order of business  would be                                                              
HOUSE  BILL  NO. 350,  "An  Act  providing  for  an amount  to  be                                                              
deducted and  retained for collecting  and submitting  the vehicle                                                              
rental  tax."    [Before  the  committee  was  proposed  committee                                                              
substitute (CS) labeled 25-LS1362\C, Bullock, 2/22/08.]                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
PETE FELLMAN, Staff,  to Representative John Harris,  Alaska State                                                              
Legislature, outlined  issues the committee  raised on HB  350. He                                                              
explained that HB  350 only applies to the vehicle  rental tax and                                                              
does  not  suggest a  rebate  for  all  taxes collected  by  third                                                              
parties.  He referred  to a chart labeled, "FY  2007 timely filing                                                              
credits 2% not  to exceed $4,000" and explained  that the original                                                              
bill  established a  3  percent  rebate of  the  10 percent  state                                                              
vehicle  rental  tax collected  by  businesses  on behalf  of  the                                                              
state.  He pointed  out that the chart identifies  all state taxes                                                              
collected by third  parties.  He stated that  the [column labeled,                                                              
"current credit"]  shows the amount that is rebated  to businesses                                                              
that collect certain  state taxes.  He noted the  fees that credit                                                              
card  companies charge  businesses.   And lastly,  he pointed  out                                                              
that if  the rebate had  a cap placed on  it by quarter,  it would                                                              
adversely  affect   businesses  in  tourism  due   to  fluctuation                                                              
between earnings for quarters.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:42:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN  asked  for  an explanation  of  the  chart                                                              
column titled,  "2% not to exceed  $4,000" and asked if  that caps                                                              
the rebate amount to $4,000 for each company.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FELLMAN answered  that the  chart  does not  reflect what  is                                                              
currently in  HB 350.  The  chart attempts to  provide information                                                              
based on questions  by members at the last hearing on  HB 350.  He                                                              
explained that  Version C would  allow a  3 percent rebate  of the                                                              
state vehicle rental  tax collected by businesses  which is capped                                                              
at  $1,000 per  quarter.   In further  response to  Representative                                                              
Neuman, Mr.  Fellman explained that  some businesses earn  most of                                                              
their income  in two  quarters, so  the effect  of the  $1,000 cap                                                              
per quarter is to limit the rebate to $2,000 annually.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:44:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FELLMAN,  in response  to Representative  LeDoux, pointed  out                                                              
that the  chart is  to provide information  for members  to assess                                                              
the effect  on businesses and  the state,  as well as  the numbers                                                              
of businesses  that would be affected  by the reducing  the rebate                                                              
to 2 percent with a $4,000 cap.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:45:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS inquired  as to whether  Mr. Fellman  could                                                              
explain the 2 and 3 percent rebate.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. FELLMAN  explained that  the 3  percent represents  the amount                                                              
of  money   the  businesses  would   be  allowed  to   retain  for                                                              
collecting the vehicle  rental tax for the state.   Version C sets                                                              
the rebate  at 3 percent  with a $1,000  cap.  The  chart provides                                                              
figures  to reflect  a 2 percent  rebate  with a  $4,000 cap  as a                                                              
result of questions that members had at the last hearing.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS asked if  the 2  percent rebate  is derived                                                              
from the 3 percent tax rebate reflected in Version C.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FELLMAN reiterated  that the  3  percent is  the percent  tax                                                              
[rebate]  to the business  owner for  collecting the  tax.   The 2                                                              
percent represents a [rebate] for comparison.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:48:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  inquired as to the reason  that the vehicle                                                              
rental tax  was singled  out for  a rebate  instead of  offering a                                                              
rebate  to third  parties who  collect any  tax on  behalf of  the                                                              
state as a policy decision.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. FELLMAN  explained that  the vehicle  rental industry  brought                                                              
to  the sponsor's  attention that  collecting  the vehicle  rental                                                              
tax is a financial burden.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON suggested  that examining all of the  excise taxes may                                                              
take considerable  time.  The vehicle  rental tax is the  only tax                                                              
being considered by the committee.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  asked for clarification  on a line  item in                                                              
the chart for other tobacco products tax.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. FELLMAN,  in response to  Representative Ramras,  related that                                                              
currently, some  industries do not  offer a timely  filing credit.                                                              
He explained  the chart.   In further  response to  Representative                                                              
Ramras,  Mr. Fellman  offered that  HB  350 proposes  a 3  percent                                                              
rebate  to  companies.    At  the  last  hearing,  some  committee                                                              
members thought the  rebate was too high, so the  chart reflects 2                                                              
percent.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:56:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHANNA BALES,  Deputy Director,  Anchorage Office,  Tax Division,                                                              
Department of Revenue  (DOR), explained that Version  C represents                                                              
the vehicle  rental tax  only with a  three percent  timely filing                                                              
credit  with  a cap  at  $1,000  per  quarter.   During  the  last                                                              
hearing,  Representative  Gatto  expressed  concern  about  timely                                                              
filing credits  for all state  tax types.   He requested  that the                                                              
division prepare  a chart to demonstrate  the effects of  a timely                                                              
filing credit  to all  taxpayers who  collect a  tax from  a third                                                              
party  on  behalf  of  the  state.    Thus,  all  tax  types  were                                                              
identified  ranging  from  alcohol taxes  and  salmon  enhancement                                                              
taxes  to tire fees.   However,  since  an income  tax is paid  on                                                              
behalf  of the  person  remitting the  tax  and not  from a  third                                                              
party,  income  taxes are  not  listed  in  the chart.    However,                                                              
excise taxes  are collected  from another  person and  remitted to                                                              
the  state.   Currently, three  tax  types are  provided a  timely                                                              
filing  credit: [the  tobacco products  tax, the  motor fuel  tax,                                                              
and  the tire  fee.]   At the  last  hearing Representative  Gatto                                                              
also  expressed concern  that not  all taxpayers  are entitled  to                                                              
the timely filing  credit.  The chart reflects a  2 percent rebate                                                              
since  at  the   3  percent  threshold  the  rebate   appeared  to                                                              
significantly  impact the  state.  She  related her  understanding                                                              
that  the prime  sponsor  is  interested  in offering  the  timely                                                              
filing credit  to the  companies that  collect the vehicle  rental                                                              
tax,  but  would  allow the  committee  to  determine  whether  to                                                              
expand the bill to consider other taxpayers.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FELLMAN, in  response to the Representative  Ramras, responded                                                              
that  if the  committee elected  to adopt  a CS  that reflected  2                                                              
percent  for timely  filing  credit, the  three  percent would  be                                                              
nonexistent.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:59:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN referred  to the chart  and inquired  as to                                                              
whether the cost  for the vehicle rental tax would  be $65,000 per                                                              
quarter or year.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FELLMAN answered  that  the  total cost  would  be a  $65,000                                                              
reduction  in tax collected  annually to  the state.   Of  the 117                                                              
taxpayers,  only 7  would  be affected  by  the  cap, which  would                                                              
result in a total of $65,000 for the timely filing credit.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN referred to the fiscal note of $265,000.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. FELLMAN answered  that the fiscal note refers  to the original                                                              
bill  without  a  cap  on the  timely  filing  fee.    In  further                                                              
response  to  Representative  Neuman,   Mr.  Fellman  agreed  that                                                              
$65,000 would be the amount not retained by the state.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:01:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAMRAS inquired as to the source of funding.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. FELLMAN  reiterated the  tax represents 2  percent of  the tax                                                              
collected   by   the   business.      In   further   response   to                                                              
Representative  Ramras, Mr.  Fellman answered  that a 2.5  percent                                                              
rebate could be a compromise rate.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:04:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  offered to  have two  committee substitutes  prepared                                                              
for  the  committee,  along with  spreadsheets  that  reflect  the                                                              
timely filing credit for the committee's consideration.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:05:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BALES,  in response to  Representative LeDoux,  explained that                                                              
the current  timely filing credit  for other tobacco  products tax                                                              
is .4 percent  and not 4 percent,  which is less than  one percent                                                              
without a  cap.   If the  timely filing  credit for other  tobacco                                                              
products tax  was increased to 2  percent but was capped  at 4,000                                                              
a year, the  cost to the state  would be $4,181.  The  cost to the                                                              
state  is relatively  small  for the  projected  2 percent  timely                                                              
filing  credit since  it is  capped  at $4,000.   Currently,  some                                                              
"other  tobacco products  tax" taxpayers  accrue  a timely  filing                                                              
credit of $11,000, even at the lower rate of .4 percent.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BALES, in  response to  Representative  LeDoux answered  that                                                              
larger dealers  would be  allowed a  smaller timely filing  credit                                                              
under the proposed cap.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:07:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN inquired  as to the  discussion during  the                                                              
time the  legislature set  the vehicle rental  tax at  10 percent.                                                              
He  further  inquired  if  the  legislature  considered  a  timely                                                              
filing credit at the time the vehicle rental tax was set.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. FELLMAN answered that he did not know.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. BALES,  in response to  Representative Neuman,  explained that                                                              
in 2003 when  the vehicle rental was established,  the legislature                                                              
reviewed  other  states'  taxes  and  set  the  passenger  vehicle                                                              
rental tax at  10 percent.  Additionally, the  legislature set the                                                              
recreational  vehicle tax at  3 percent.   In further  response to                                                              
Representative Neuman,  Ms. Bales  agreed that the  vehicle rental                                                              
tax is  listed as a line  item cost so  the consumer pays  the tax                                                              
and the dealer remits the tax to the state.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN inquired as  to whether the  administrative                                                              
costs   are   passed  on   to   the   consumer  by   the   dealer.                                                              
Representative  Neuman further  inquired  as to  whether the  tax,                                                              
which could  vary between  2 to  3 percent could  be tacked  on to                                                              
the business license  fees for simplicity and to  reduce paperwork                                                              
for businesses.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BALES stated  that she  thought that  businesses probably  do                                                              
pass on their overhead  costs to consumers.  She  pointed out that                                                              
since  the  individual  taxpayer  is  the  ultimate  taxpayer,  to                                                              
require  the dealer  collect the  tax saves  the state  collection                                                              
costs.    If   the  state  were  to  collect   directly  from  the                                                              
individual,  it  would need  to  contact  each person  who  rented                                                              
vehicles.   When  the  state collects  the  tax  from dealers,  it                                                              
reduces  its  base  for collections.    Thus,  offering  a  timely                                                              
filing  credit  to  businesses  helps  offset  the  administrative                                                              
costs businesses  incur when  collecting  the vehicle rental  tax.                                                              
She noted  currently  the state  allows 3 types  of businesses  to                                                              
qualify for a timely filing credit.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. FELLMAN,  in response  to Representative  Ramras, opined  that                                                              
businesses who  receive a timely  filing credit ranging from  2 to                                                              
3 percent  may choose  to pass  on their  administrative costs  to                                                              
the consumer.   However, since the business collects  a 10 percent                                                              
tax, HB 350 would  authorize the business to withhold  from 2 to 3                                                              
percent.   The  committee  will decide  the  timely filing  credit                                                              
amount  which will  be  deducted  from the  10  percent total  tax                                                              
collected.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAMRAS  inquired as to  whether the 2 to  3 percent                                                              
tax represents the timely filing credit.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FELLMAN  agreed that  the  timely  filing credit  is  applied                                                              
towards the 10 percent total tax collected.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:14:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  inquired as  to whether the  businesses are                                                              
required  to  place  the  vehicle   rental  tax  collected  in  an                                                              
interest  bearing  account  on  behalf  of  the  state  to  accrue                                                              
interest  from the  collection date  to  the quarterly  remittance                                                              
date.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. FELLMAN said he was not sure.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS related  his experience  since his  company                                                              
collects a  3 percent bed tax and  derives benefit for  the 30 day                                                              
period  of time  the  funds  are held  prior  to remittance.    He                                                              
opined that  interest represents a  fractional amount.   Thus, the                                                              
Fairbanks North  Star Borough does  not require hotels  to account                                                              
for the fractional amount of income derived.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:18:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FELLMAN, in  response to Representative Ramras,  answered that                                                              
the proposed  2 percent could be  taken from the 3 percent  tax if                                                              
the  perspective is  that the  3 percent  is derived  from the  10                                                              
percent total vehicle rental tax collected.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[HB 350, Version C, was held over.]                                                                                             

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